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I suspect that also if what happens comes to pass, the leftists will claim that they did not lose. They will say, we supported these things before abortion pills were a thing, and we were fighting against the connectionist religious right. Back then there were no artificial wombs, so it was really bodily autonomy. In a similar way, Palestinian nationalism is a losing cause. But I suspect the leftist retrospective might be just that they were upset about the Gazan civilian deaths, and they will conveniently omit the part where they said they wanted to destroy Israel or say, not totally without justification, it was mostly just a few noisy radicals. They will say, Biden supported Israel and wanting to bring the Saudis into the Abraham Accords. I know some leftists who talk about protesting the Korean War and they say it was because of the draft and civilian casualties. I'm sure some supported Kim il-Sung. But those are kind of just memory holed. Trans rights is another one, they will just say that it was about being nice and not misgendering adults and letting them transition, an they will say the puberty blocker stuff was just a few noisy radicals and minimize it. Forced sterilization (also known as "20th century eugenics") and pedophilia are two cases where it is more awkward. They will say forced sterilization was a really long time ago, and pedophilia was only a fringe minority. And they will memory hole it. I expect that the reaction in all of these cases will be a combination of memory holing and making excuses.

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Great point about pederasty being a leftist position they actually lost on. I don’t think that eugenics is “progressive” in the same way though as say something like called “same sex marriage.” Early progressivism in a way still had nationalist elements and acknowledged HBD and would have never advocated for mass migration for example. However as the logic of atheism unfolds it necessarily leads to postmodern nonsense and undermines the superiority of race/clan/tribe into individualist consumers which makes people turn to wokeism for meaning. So originally progressivism was solving all the problems with science (think the white mans burden) but it eventually loses that North Star and devolves into gay race communism

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